From: "PJ" <atmospheric_plasma@hotmail.dotcom>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.plasma
References: <c5pj8n$47fi$1@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
Subject: Re: Bizarre Plasma Cleaning of Platinum Parts
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Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 20:08:38 GMT

ZZ
You are seeing something called the hollow cathode effect...  Basically at
certain pressure regimes you get electron trapping inside the cylindrical
parts...  This greatly enhances ionization within the cylindrical part.
Your parts are probably getting red hot...  The platinum is most likely
forming an oxide that is being sputtered and evaporated onto your titanium
fixture.  This effect is common at this pressure.  You might try operating
at a different pressure to reduce this.  If you hit the "perfect" pressure
you might get them all to light up!

PJ

"Chucker" <charles.e.wood@medtronic.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi, I have a thought experiment regarding something I'm seeing when I
> plasma clean platinum parts.  I'm currently using a
> desktop plasma cleaner at the following settings to prepare platinum
> parts for platinization:
>
> Time:  15 minutes
> Gas:  Oxygen
> Flow:  25ml/min
> Microwave Power:  250 Watts
> Pressure:  40 Pa (0.30 Torr)
> Fixture material:  Titanium
> Part material: 90/10 Platinum/Iridium
> Part shape:  Hollow cylindrical part about 0.1" diameter and 0.5" long
>
> 100 parts are held against individual V-grooves with a neoprene
> O-ring.  There are 2 rings, an inner ring holding 40 parts and
> an outer ring holding 60 parts.
> The weird thing I'm seeing is that a couple of parts will glow orange
> on the outside ring, burning through the O-ring and
> discoloring the titanium fixture a bluish-gold at the particular
> v-groove. My initial reaction is the glow is due to heat.
>
> What could be causing this?  I'm a mechanical engineer by training so
> I'm way out of my element.  Could it be the platinum is
> acting as a catalyst?  Does it have something to do with the microwave
> energy?  How about a secondary plasma?  Is a current be developed
> between the fixture and part, generating heat?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
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